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sparrow
05-04-2007, 10:29 AM
My son Josh has ADHD and wants to go to NYU. He's brilliant, and I know he'll eventually be successful somewhere amazing, but right now I am afraid to let him out of my sight. Are there any other parents out there exeriencing this and do you have a good solution for a nervous mom? Tracking-device? Nanny cam?

Chocolate_New_Orleans
05-04-2007, 01:04 PM
Try cutting the Umbilical cord already :rolleyes:

ADHD is a fake label that doctors, who have to deal with hyperchondriac parents wanting a label for their kid who is being an arse all day, give. Because Heaven forbid a parent take responsibility for raising an arsehole kid. It's easier to give the fake label ADHD/ADD to the kid, then for the doctor to tell the truth and say "your kid needs a foot up his butt, take control of your kid"

Now, the doctor is happy because you will eventually return as a patient (unlikely if he gave you a prescription of the truth), and the parents are happy because now it's 'not their fault' their kid doesn't listen. They have something to blame it on :rolleyes:

Mr. H
05-04-2007, 06:20 PM
There are varying degrees of AD/HD, most "sufferers" can overcome it if given incentive and guidance. Others (severe cases) need medication. AD/HD shouldn't require your son to be monitored at all times. If you feel that he does require such things, then maybe it's not related to AD/HD... maybe there is something else going on that need be addressed. AD/HD in MOST cases is a cop out and many parents use it as an excuse for their children's failures or needs... I don't know the specifics of your son's behaviors, but maybe you might want to look at more than just his AD/HD.

Unregistered
07-22-2009, 01:38 AM
It's easier to give the fake label ADHD/ADD to the kid, then for the doctor to tell the truth and say "your kid needs a foot up his butt, take control of your kid"













So, recently I had an interesting conversation with an office manager of a doctor's office. Apparently many doctors like to diagnos diseases/disorders by trying the patient out on meds for that disease. If the meds clear up the problem then the doctors assume that they guessed correctly (am I the only one who views this as russian rullet?). However, legally doctors cannot prescribe meds for a condition unless there is a diagnosis, so doctors will write an official diagnosis to give themselves the opportunity to try out the meds.

Essentially that means that ADHD diagnosises are a lot less reliable than I had previously given them credit for. The problem that I see with this situation is that psychiactric drugs are much more complicated than, say, anti-biotics. Anyone taking ADHD meds will experience increased focus because they stimulate the section of the brain that controls focus. In other words: The meds "working" does not mean that a person has ADHD. In addition to labelling a child with a life long genetic disorder, another consequence of taking these drugs is the associated side effects.

I am not trying to suggest that the meds are bad-just that it would be wise to get multiple opinions first. Also, if I had a child who I believed had ADHD then I would insist on having TESTS run before jumping on the medication bandwagon. I would want to rule out vitamin deficiencies (B, Omega 3, ect.) and I would want to know what types of tests (catscans?) could give more objective proof of ADHD. I would not agree to antibiotics unless I had reasonable proof that the kid had an ear infection-therefore I would not give a kid powerful psychiatric drugs without substantial proof that the child *actually* has a disorder. I expect more than "guess and check" medication for my family.

Chocolate_New_Orleans
07-22-2009, 09:14 AM
there isn't a stigma associated with your child having an ear ache though, like there is when he's an undisciplined turd.

An ADHD diagnosis relieves parents of any fault in there eyes, so therefore, when one is given, it's a weight lifted off their parental shoulders and they accept it wholeheartedly.

Unregistered
07-22-2009, 01:44 PM
there isn't a stigma associated with your child having an ear ache though, like there is when he's an undisciplined turd.

An ADHD diagnosis relieves parents of any fault in there eyes, so therefore, when one is given, it's a weight lifted off their parental shoulders and they accept it wholeheartedly.










And that is extremely sad. I've taught kids who I was sure did not have ADHD, but because they had been told that they had it they believed themselves incapable of self-betterment. Kids can grow out of the hyperactive behavior that we associate with ages 4-7, but it is very difficult to throw off a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Chocolate_New_Orleans
07-23-2009, 02:26 AM
a friend of my ex-wife's had a bratty 5 y.o. One time, his mother had him over at my house at about 9pm one night after a movie or something. We got home and I offered the kids (hers included) a coke. his mother said, "aaron, tell them why you can't have soda's after dark"
"because I'll be hyper" was his answer


self-fulfilling prophecy 100%